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        Minutes provided by Sue Ellen Richey, Recording Secretary

        IRC Regular Voting Members: Ginny Anderson, Fiscal Affairs; Walter Bowen, Academic Administration; Bill Buntain, Communications Program Group; Carolyn Cunningham, Student Affairs; Paul Dworak, College of Music; Steve Grant, UNT Health Science Center; Don Grose, Libraries; Jenny Jopling, Instruction Program Group; Joneel Harris, Administrative Program Group; Mike Kozak, Faculty Senate; Allen Livingston, Student Association; Steve Miller, Human Resources; Dennis Mueller, Research Program Group; Ramu Muthiah, School of Community Services; Robert Nimocks, Director, Information Technology,UNTHSC; Jim Poirot, College of Education; Don Schol, School of Visual Arts; Kathleen Swigger, College of Arts and Sciences; Neal Tate, University Planning Council; Philip Turner, Associate Vice President of Academic Affairs for Distance Education and Dean of the School of Library and Information Resources (Chair, IRC); Chair)Virginia Wheeless, Chancellor; John Windsor, College of Business;. IRC Ex-officio Nonvoting Members: Jim Curry, Microcomputer Maintenance Shop; Richard Harris, Computing Center; Coy Hoggard, Computing Center; Maurice Leatherbury, Computing Center; Sue Ellen Richey, Computing Center (Recording Secretary); Rondel Stevens, Telecommunications.

        October 21, 1997

        Distributed Computing Support Management Team

        Maurice Leatherbury reported for the Distributed Computing Support Management Team that they are evaluating several different brands of laptops and working with a couple of vendors to set up a program through which laptops can be purchased and maintained for the whole campus. In response to a question from Dick Vedder, Maurice replied that they are specifying removable hard drives for any laptops that will be purchased.

        Instruction Program Group

        Jenny Jopling reported that in an earlier meeting of the Instruction Program Group, they discussed the classroom access policy because the classroom upgrades that will be occurring will necessitate taking measures to insure the security of those rooms. Don Schol has agreed to contact other institutions to gather information about their classroom access policies. Jenny distributed a memo outlining UT Austin's classroom access policy, for information purposes.

        Administrative Program Group

        Coy Hoggard reported that the Administrative Program Group has met, at which time Susan Pierce reviewed security issues as well as discussed the time line of some upcoming reports, including the Biennial Operating Plan and the Strategic Plan. Administrative Computing and the Financial Aid Office are implementing a new version of FAMS, with an eye toward having it in production the first week of November.

        ManageWise and Video Conferencing

        Dr. Turner reported that he and Richard Harris had met with the IR Steering Committee, at which time the Vice Presidents approved the ManageWise proposal that was presented and approved at the September 16th IRC meeting.

        Dr. Turner also announced that GTE was awarded the contract on the video conferencing network equipment installation. They are scheduled to begin installation on November 1 with a completion date of December 1, 1997. They are now dealing with issues such as how to handle text book orders, registration and admission off site, as well as how to market the courses. There are already a full slate of courses scheduled at all three sites (PDI, Dallas Education Center, and LaCroy Technology Center), plus some in Lubbock, Houston, and Nacogdoches in Spring of 1998. They have met with the DCSMT and assigned members of that team to take care of the logistics of this project for each faculty member who will be teaching on the conference network.

        Computer-Based Training

        Bill Buntain made a presentation on a new computer based training program that the Computing Center is licensing for campus-wide use. He distributed a set of presentation slides, an Alliance Consortium Pricing Program, and a CBT Systems Course Listing. Bill explained that what spurred an interest in establishing this license is the training program for Novell certification that the Computing Center provided for some of its people so that they could then train network managers campus-wide. The Computing Center has been looking for an alternative method of training network managers, and this CBT vendor was highly recommended. Bill explained the multiple benefits of leasing the CBT software and reported that the Computing Center has already leased 50 course titles for which he anticipates full reimbursement from the various departments that will participate in the training program. The cost of these courses represents a large savings to the university, over having to send employees to off-site classes for the same training. In addition, there is a web-based component which enables distribution of the courses over the web; as well as a course management utility. What CBT is offering UNT now is a consortium pricing program through the Alliance for Higher Education, which will involve several institutions of higher education in Texas. This will provide an even larger cost-savings for UNT.

        In the discussion that followed, a question was raised concerning the cost to UNT in terms of staffing and technology to support this program, as well as a question regarding security procedures with the web-based courses. It was pointed out that the University Library has already received some of the titles and is working on getting them deployed. Bill stated that he will be meeting with the CBT Systems users' group on Oct. 22 to clarify some details and get ideas. A motion was passed, pending development of an administrative plan, stating that the Computing Center should go forward with this project and at the same time study how to best distribute the courseware. After continued discussion, Dr. Poirot amended his motion to state that the Computing Council endorses continuation of discussion about this program, and endorses the implementation of the CBT Systems project, upon satisfactory findings of the Computing Center and others involved. Following a vote on the amended motion, the Chair stated that it is the consensus of the Council that Bill proceed with this project.

        Bill asked for input and guidance from the committee as to how to recover the cost of this program as well as how to structure the program and choose the titles. Bill pointed out that the Health Science Center can be included in this, and could provide some of the funding. It was suggested that the Standards & Cooperation Program Group work with Bill to develop a plan for administration of the program; Paul Dworak, Chair of that program group, agreed to have his committee work with Bill. The Chair asked for a progress report at the November IRC meeting and answers to the questions pertaining to staffing and technology costs. The Chair also asked Bill to send out information about what titles are now available through the Library.

        Standards & Cooperation Program Group

        Paul Dworak reported that the Standards & Cooperation Program Group drafted a letter for Dr. Brownell to send out to all of the Vice Presidents, concerning the campus-wide computer upgrade project, and which included instructions developed by Jim Curry and Susan Pierce.

        Paul also reported that the program group has looked at the Supported Computing Items List and has decided to develop a collection of successful solutions in the work places across campus, and distribute a document that details recommended platforms and applications in place of the current SCIL (Supported Computing Items List). In addition, they would like to develop a list of software that is available through site licenses.

        Innovative Projects?

        Dennis Mueller asked Dr. Turner the status of the IRC's recommendation on the funding of the Innovative Projects proposal. Dr. Turner reported that nothing has been determined by the IR Steering Committee at this time. Turner said he would bring it up again at the next meeting.

        Scurfy Awareness

        Richard Harris stated that the security awareness flyers that were sent out recently were an effort to meet minimal state requirements on security awareness training. Human Resources has agreed to add a statement to the Employee Bibliographic Update form in order that every employee has a signed form on file stating that they are aware of the security laws. He told the group that Susan Pierce and Charlotte Russell have developed a training session that they are conducting for all staff and faculty. These training sessions are aimed at increasing employee awareness of the need for computer security. Donna Asher commented that a security awareness document will be included in all the new-hire packets that are given out at the new employee orientation sessions. Paul Dworak stressed that employees really need to understand the concept of computer security, so he recommended that steps be taken to actively inform people. Susan Pierce stated that there is quite a bit of material on the web.

        November 18, 1997

        Change in Minutes

        Virginia Wheeless moved to accept the minutes of the October 21, 1997 meeting, with the following correction:

          Page 2, paragraph 5: Delete "for which he anticipates full reimbursement from the various departments that will participate in the training program."

          Add "Under the original funding arrangement it was expected that the cost of the software would be fully recovered by a $150 charge per sequence to the departments for each employee enrolled."

        The minutes were approved as corrected.

        Distributed Learning Team

        The Chair proposed that a member of the newly formed Distributed Learning Team become a member of the IRC. This committee's duty is to look at distributed education in terms of administration, faculty and training issues, as well as the infrastructure. The faculty side has been meeting to resolve some critical issues before courses begin in the Spring. By having a member of that team on the IRC, the Council can stay apprised of what is going on in that arena. This proposal will be voted on at the December meeting.

        Desktop Application Software Guidelines

        Maurice Leatherbury asked that a draft of Desktop Application Software Guidelines be distributed, in his absence, to be discussed and voted on at the December IRC meeting. Virginia Wheeless asked how this information will be distributed to faculty. She stated that all members of the IRC should share the document with their constituents. Joneel Harris asked that it be distributed electronically as well. Virginia expressed concern about the timeline for the transition to the proposed new desktop software standard. There was some discussion on the possibility of holding another university-wide forum on this issue.

        Kelly Wood, a member of the DCSMT, commented that the committee has had quite a bit of discussion on the subject of desktop application software. People seem to have the impression that there is an attempt to do away with WordPerfect 5.1; however, among the heads of distributed computing in the different colleges, there is a strong opinion that whatever their users want is what will be supported. The DCSMT, by way of these guidelines, is trying to establish a new direction toward a newer product that they feel integrates well with the operating system and that will, in the future, most likely be supported by the operating system. The guidelines being presented do not presume to tell the distributed areas which word processing platform they have to use. It is simply trying to set a standard of preference. Logically, the users in each area will communicate their needs and preferences to the heads of the distributed areas.

        Joneel pointed out that in the Administration Building, there is no user's group to provide a forum for discussion of these issues. Bill Buntain commented that there have been several attempts to form a user's group in the Admin. Building. Richard Harris commented that most colleges have computer user's groups. More discussion followed.

        Dennis Mueller suggested that the Deans be requested to circulate these proposed guidelines to their faculty for their input. The Chair agreed to write a letter to the Deans,listing IRC members, to accompany copies of the guidelines, and ask them to share the document with their faculty and give input on the subject to their IRC representative.

        There was some discussion about the timing of the release of these guidelines. It was agreed that if there is no consensus about this issue at the December IRC meeting, the guidelines will not be considered final, and will be presented again at the January meeting.

        CBT Systems project

        Jenny Jopling reported for the Instruction Program Group, that they have been discussing the CBT Systems project. The committee has met with SLIS, BCIS, CSCI and Art, the potential users of the CBT courseware, and find that they have chosen 345 titles they would like to use. Jenny expressed her concern over one of the titles she previewed, and distributed a document that outlined her objections to the course. Jenny felt that the courses should all be previewed before they are ordered, although there is not enough time to do that before this contract goes into effect, around the end of December. It is not certain whether or not courses can be reviewed before ordering; however, Bill Buntain stated that the company has been pretty flexible about things up to now.

        There was some discussion about how the CBT Systems courseware will be funded. Bill pointed out that if an arrangement can be made with PDI, then the cost could be partially recovered by the fees collected by PDI for courses distributed by them. The Health Science Center is also interested in the courseware, so there could be some cost sharing there. Bill stated that there are a lot of issues regarding funding that still need to be worked through. Bill pointed out that the main advantage to the CBT Systems courseware is the CNE training and Microsoft certification training, which will be provided at a much lower cost than sending people off campus to be trained. The cost of purchasing all the titles that have been requested will be around $30,000. Richard Harris commented that there is some question about whether HEAF funds can be used. Ginny Anderson stated that she would have to review all the information about the product contract before ruling on whether or not HEAF funds could be used. John Stanton, of the Libraries, commented that the Library is quite interested in this courseware. It was pointed out that this courseware was written for corporations and is reviewed and revised annually, and that CBT Systems is the best provider of this type of courseware on the market today. Neal Tate asserted that this would be a small investment to provide this much needed resource.

        There was some discussion about how the courseware will be distributed and managed. John Stanton pointed out that there is an integrated overlay in the product that is set up to manage the software. He also commented that the contract with CBT Systems, negotiated through AHE, will provide for an unlimited number of users, which is a big advantage over the initial contract. Another advantage of this contract is that UNT will be allowed to burn CD's and sell them to users, which is another way of recovering the cost. Bill Buntain stated that UNT already has a server purchased for the purpose, which is housed in the Library.

        Neal Tate made a motion to charge the Chair to see that an implementation plan is developed, including financing. The objective should be to make resources available to the greatest number of people in the simplest possible way. Dennis Mueller seconded the motion. There was further discussion on who should develop the plan. The Chair stated that he would take this to the IR Steering Committee. The motion was passed with one abstention.

        Innovative Projects?

        Dennis Mueller asked about the status of the request for funding of the Innovative Projects program. Dr. Turner reported that as far as he knows there have been two sets of funds established, one for distributed learning grants and one for innovative teaching projects grants $125,000 in each fund. There is a separate committee doing the selection.

        Meeting Adjourned

        There were no Program Group reports; and with no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m.

        December 16, 1997

        General Access Lab Software?

        Dr. Swigger reported having had a problem that she felt needed to be addressed at some level. She has attempted to have some software made available in the general access labs for her students and to do so has had to contact every individual lab manager to request assistance in getting that software installed. The lab managers then referred her to their respective deans for approval. Swigger suggested that she should have been able to contact one central person to accomplish this. Another problem she found was that in the general access labs there were duplicate IP addresses and other technical problems that prevented her software from running. One aspect of the problem is that there is no information available as to how to accomplish what she wanted to accomplish, such as who to contact, what committee is in charge, etc.

        Discussion followed, during which it was pointed out that the General Access Lab Committee would have been the appropriate forum in which to present Dr. Swigger's request. It was also noted that the IRC no longer has a representative from the General Access Lab serving on it, but probably should. It was also pointed out that the Distributed Computing Support Management Team (DCSMT) was established to coordinate distributed support centrally. The Chair suggested that some action needs to be taken, perhaps to have the General Access Committee Chair speak to the IRC regarding these issues. Maurice Leatherbury spoke to the issues Dr. Swigger raised and commented that the way the distributed computing support management team works is that all of the LAN managers work together in a group to resolve issues, but no one is really in authority over them. Paul Dworak suggested that if the bureaucracy is too complex then it needs to be changed. Paul further commented that the Computing Center should sort out what they will do centrally; and a user should be able to go to one person in the Computing Center with a request and have that request carried to the appropriate distributed area or areas.

        Bill Buntain explained that the Computing Center has central DNS servers, but the address spaces are sub-allocated to distributed areas for them to manage. It is the responsibility of the network managers to manage the devices in their area within those sub-areas. Bill suggested that the technical problems experienced in Dr. Swigger's report are not an issue of the management of the DNS servers and the registration of devices in that server the problem lies in the configuration of the workstation.

        The Chair asked Maurice to take these issues to the DCSMT and report to the IRC, bringing an action item if needed.

        Biennial Operating Plan

        Susan Pierce presented the Biennial Operating Plan (B.O.P.) for Information Technology for Fiscal Years 1998 and 1999, and distributed a condensed version. The Plan details expenditures in the current biennium, the two prior years, and the two future years. Although the plan shows how much UNT plans to spend, the figures are only an estimate which can be changed at any time.

        Paul Schlieve moved that IRC rules be suspended so that approval of the B.O.P. could be brought up for a vote at this meeting, rather than waiting a month to vote on its approval. Ginny Anderson seconded the motion, and it passed. Schlieve also moved for acceptance of the B.O.P; Don Grose seconded, and the motion passed.

        Laptop Purchase Plan

        Maurice Leatherbury reported for the DCSMT that the laptop purchase plan is progressing. Four vendors have been sent a Request for Offer on five different brands of laptops, with response requested by January 23, 1998. It is hoped that by late February or early March the plan will be in place. The plan is to provide one or two standard models of laptops and maintenance for those through the Microcomputer Maintenance Shop, except for IBM who will not allow UNT to provide its own support. The other brands that have been evaluated are Dell, Acer, Toshiba and Compaq.

        Desktop Application Software Guidelines

        Maurice also presented the Desktop Application Software Guidelines, which were distributed at the November meeting. The DCSMT had several lengthy discussions about the guidelines which recommend adoption of the Microsoft Office Suite for a desktop standard, while at the same time allowing distributed areas to use and support other word processing and spreadsheet products if their users want them. Maurice pointed out that by the middle of next year, Microsoft will be the preferred software for sharing of word processing files across campus, and will receive the highest level of support. WordPerfect 6.0 will continue to be installed and supported across campus as long as it is needed.

        Virginia Wheeless objected to a vote on these guidelines until all local area network managers have had time to consult with their users. Further discussion followed, in which it was noted that the upgrade to GroupWise 5.2 will be phased in, with the Computing Center being the first to upgrade in January. It was agreed that there would be no harm done by tabling a vote on the guidelines until a later meeting. Wheeless made a motion to table the vote on these guidelines; Dennis Mueller seconded. Paul Dworak commented that if there is an area where communication is not taking place between users and network managers, area supervisors need to deal with that situation as a personnel issue, and this should not hold up a vote on the guidelines. Dworak stated that if the motion were amended to include a deadline, he would not object, so Virginia and Dennis accepted a friendly amendment adding the time limit of the February IRC meeting for communication between LAN managers and users to have taken place. The amended motion passed.

        Distributed Learning Team Representation?

        The Chair called for a vote on possible representation on the IRC from the Distributed Learning Team (DLT). He explained that the DLT is a group of UNT staff who have something to do with supporting faculty in the development of distributed learning courses. Mike Kozak moved approval of IRC representation from the DLT; Ginny Anderson seconded and the motion passed.

        Instruction Program Group

        Jenny Jopling reported that the Instruction Program Group has met with Jim Curry concerning his new classroom support services division. They are working on a classroom access policy. They recommend that any request for renovation or new construction of classrooms be routed through Jim Curry so that he is aware of all construction activity in classrooms. Discussion followed, during which it was suggested that Jenny visit with Ray McFarlane before any new procedure is started. Joneel suggested that when classroom scheduling is concerned that David Kesterson be included in the loop. Paul Dworak suggested that some sort of planning and reporting process should be put in place, headed by Dr. Kesterson with information passed on to Jim Curry. This seemed to be the consensus of the group.

        CBT System Software

        Jenny continued by bringing up the subject of the CBT System Software contract, and deferred to Bill Buntain to discuss it. Bill explained that the AHE contract was supposed to have been put in place by the end of November, but they extended it for one month. It is to UNT's advantage to be included on the AHE contract because it will give UNT a much larger number of titles to use, and will provide a large savings in training costs. At the present time, the contract is being reviewed by the University Attorney. Bill Buntain will be the point of contact for assistance in using these training courses, and he will work with the Instruction Group on the details.

        Communications Program Group

        Bill also reported that the Communications Program Group would meet and visit with GTE at their DFW Airport Technical Solutions Center for a presentation of emerging communications technologies on December 18th. Bill expressed a need for additional members for that program group and asked that the IRC Chair send out a letter asking for nominations from the various academic areas' computing committees. The Chair agreed to do that.

        Bill also reported on the directory services initiative and stated that he anticipates bringing a final report to the Council in January.

        Standards & Cooperation Program Group

        Paul Dworak reported for the Standards & Cooperation Program Group that the procedure for the campus-wide workstation upgrade is in place and Jim Curry has been contacting individual departments personally. The committee is looking at the role of the program group and has decided to try to provide information centrally on suites of applications that work together successfully on the various platforms. This was proposed to the DCSMT and approved; Paul intends to present the idea to the LAN managers, as well. They intend to develop a list of software site licenses available on campus, as well as a list of frequently asked questions and their answers. Another idea they had was to create a flow chart of Computing Center operations to facilitate communication. They are open to doing whatever would be useful to the campus to enhance cooperations and standards.

        Research Program Group

        Dennis Mueller reported for the Research Program Group that they met and would like to recommend that the word "innovative" be removed from the title of the Teaching With Technology Grants, so that those grants will not be confused with the Innovative Projects grants, which were not funded.

        Maurice Leatherbury explained that $250,000 was given to Teaching With Technology grants this year, divided into two categories, with one category being for distributed learning projects and the other category being open to any innovative teaching project.

        The Chair explained that a form was sent to the Provost, putting forward the recommendation to fund Innovative Projects, and was returned to the IRC with the response that Innovative Projects would be placed on the list of items to be considered for funding.

        The Chair stated that he and Maurice would discuss a way to correct the communication.

        Administrative Program Group

        Joneel Harris reported that the Administrative Program Group met and discussed the CBT Proposal and the desktop standards guidelines. She stated that Financial Aid is interested in the authoring tool product that is offered by CBT Systems. Joneel also commended Susan Pierce for her work on the Biennial Operating Plan.

        Meeting Adjourned

        There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:20 p.m.



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