Meeting Minutes

September 17, 1999 Meeting

Members present Rich Anderson, Ginger Boone, Bill Buntain, Sandy Burke, Tim Christian, Wil Clark, Jim Curry, Mike Hatch, Paul Hons, Brenda Kirk, Maurice Leatherbury, Gary Matthews, Dallas Newell, Chris Strauss, Kelly Wood, Mike Wright, Roy Zumwalt

Members absent: Troy Bacon, Craig Berry, Allen Bradley, Eric Duchemin, Cyndie Harris, Pam Hight, Abraham John, Kirk Kelly, Ramu Muthia

Guests:  Matt Graham, Richard Harris, Mike Maner, Aaron Thompson

The minutes of the September 3, 1999 meeting were not yet prepared.

Wil Clark, for the Student Computing subcommittee, reported that it would meet the following Wednesday and had nothing else to report.

Maurice reported that he hadn't made any progress on Computing Support Quotient project.

Matt Graham from the Library read the following statement about the recent browser plugin that the Library had announced would be required:

We in the LAN Department in the UNT Libraries empathize with the other network managers' problems about having to redo ghost images or having to add new plug-ins in the middle of a semester. However, that is the nature of adding new electronic resources in the Libraries. New electronic resources (as well as print and other materials) are purchased throughout the year and, consequently, are added to our collections throughout the year. Vendors upgrade their CD-ROMs or web sites throughout the year which sometimes require new plug-ins as well. We cannot change the purchasing aspect of adding to the Libraries' collections, but we can promise that Matt Graham, the Electronic Library Administrator, will inform the other network managers as soon as he finds out that a new plug-in will be required for a new or existing electronic resource. We are also investigating the possibility to adding a web page to our web site which lists the current plug-ins and which resources require those plug-ins.

Matt explained that the Library only knew of the plugin requirement three days before sending the message to the netman listserv.  Wil Clark suggested that we needed a clearinghouse of plugins showing all requirements on campus. The question was asked what the various support units do when disk images are completed but a new software requirement comes in in the middle of a semester.  In general, the answer was that re-ghosting the images was done only when it was an absolute requirement: mostly the re-ghosting is done between semesters. SAS had been a problem because the license expires in November, necessitating a new image in the middle of the Fall semester.  Maurice said that he would re-form the Desktop Applications subcommittee to develop policies and procedures for campus-wide changes to software requirements.

Mike Hatch raised the question of keying of wiring closets, saying that he had heard that the network managers would be locked out of closets in their buildings. Bill Buntain explained that there had been some problems in the past with distributed support personnel changing network hardware configurations and that the new network would be more complex, thereby raising the potential for yet more problems to be created. Bill had asked Mike Maner, Dowl Morrow (Telecomm,) and the Physical Plant office to set standards for access to wiring closets (housing needs access for maintenance emergencies, etc.)  Bill asked the network managers to contact him if they had specific needs for access to closets that house network components in their units.

The question was also raised about recommendations and support for wiring hubs when the new network is brought up.  Bill responded that writing hubs are not supported by the datacomm department and admitted that in the past datacomm hadn't been consistent in answering about acceptable purchases of such devices by the network managers. Mike Maner said that datacomm would only support switches that were recommended by them, but that they weren't ready to make recommendations yet.  Also, even recommended switches wouldn't be guaranteed to work.

The meeting adjourned at 12:00 AM.

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